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Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies. Thou anointest my head with
oil. My cup runneth over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.
And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever. Forever. Forever, forever.
[MUSIC PLAYING]

We're continuing our thinking together about freedom and suffering against the background of
the distilled insights of the Judeo-Christian faith. So He died for His faith. That's fine. More than
most of us do. But can you add to that line that He lived for it, too? In His death, He bore witness
at last as a martyr to truth. Did His life do the same in the past, from the days of His youth?
It is easy to die. Men have died for a wish or a whim, from bravado, or passion, or pride. Was it
harder for Him? But to live-- to live-- every day to live out all the truth that He dreamt, while His
friends met His conduct with doubt, and the world, with contempt. Was it thus that He plodded
ahead, never turning aside?

Then we'll talk of the life that He led. Never mind how He died. And then this-- it is easy to die
amid the world's applause for a noble deed with trumpets blaring. It's the harder part to fight for a
cause and inwardly bleed with no one caring. It's easy, perhaps, to die for a dream with banners
unfurled and be forgiving. It's the harder path to follow the gleam when scorned by the world
and go on living.
Now I chose those two because they develop one facet of the thing that is in my heart and mind,
without my having to take out of my time the energy to do it. You've had one development of an
aspect of the idea in the poetry I read. So I won't have to touch that again. Now we'll go on.
Last week, in thinking about suffering, it was suggested that if freedom is fact in man's
experience, then suffering must, of necessity, be a part of that experience of freedom. Of course,
if man is not free really-- really-- then, of course, suffering is not a fact, really.
It was suggested that there is a kind of suffering that belongs to the general category of reward
and punishment, of reaping and sowing, of antecedent and consequent, of balance, of a kind of
justice-- using a working definition of justice as the artificial equalization of unequal-- justice in
that sense.

It was suggested, also, that there is a suffering that belongs to man's experience as a victim of
circumstances over which he is unable to exercise any control, with reference to which he can
only abide. The experience of suffering that man goes through as a victim. Now the degree to
which man is a victim in a circumstance may mark, however, the measure of the limitation of his
freedom. But we did not have time to develop that aspect of it.
It was suggested, further, that man's-- that there is a fundamental distinction between man's fate,
which may be the experience through which a man passes as a victim of circumstances in which
he is unable to exercise any control, but circumstances that are his by virtue of the fact of his

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existence at a particular time, and place, and at a given moment in human history. He cannot
alter this, in terms of the relentless movement of the events themselves.

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Given, then, this definition of fate, in what sense may man maintain the dignity of freedom? He
may maintain it by brooding over the stubborn and unyielding and recalcitrant aspects of his
experience until he is able to make of these experiences something that is more in keeping with
his dream and his aspiration and his hope. In other words, the man can determine, to a large
extent, what is the nature-- what may be the nature of his destiny, even though he is helpless in
the hands of his fate.

Now today, I'd like to take this a step further. There is the kind of suffering that-- No, no, no, no,
no. I'm sorry. That's not right. No. There is an aspect-- that's right-- there is an aspect of suffering
that belongs, essentially, to man's estimate of himself. Oh. Be very patient with me while I try to
get at this thing. We must learn how to be worthy of our suffering. That's what I'm trying to get
at.

Sometimes, it seems very clear to me that life deliberately places its hand upon a human being
and releases upon that life some of its most violent moods. As if life decided that here is a human
being who is worthy of the most powerful diatribes of violences that I can release upon the
human being. And if he is worthy of it, there will be revealed in his encounter with the raw
elements of the violences, reaches of meaning and depth of being that could be revealed in no
other way.
It's like the seed of the jack pine up in British Columbia. The seed of the jack pine can only
sprout or what is-- sprout, yes, that's it-- the seed of jack pine can only sprout and develop some
other little jack pines if it has been burned. Burned. All the outer cover burned away. It will lie
down in this-- under the trees or in the forest. It can rot. It can die. But the only way that it can
live, so a ranger in British Columbia told me, is that the seed has to be burned over, so that when
the forest burns and the jack pines burn, then the seed now is able-- for the good that is in it-- to
have its chance to live and grow and blossom.

Now there may be dimensions of meaning and depth in human life that can only become
manifest under this kind of oppression. Now please, do not misunderstand me. I am not saying
that we should go around trying to find the most terrible things-- to expose ourselves to them and
lay ourselves bare-- just go on attending to your business. Nobody ultimately escapes, anyway.
Now when the moving finger touches you, and in that touch, there is the wild manifestation of
the unrestrained violences of existence, don't cry out. Sit with it. Live with it. And get your clue
to your own self-estimate from what this thing reveals. That's what I'm trying to say.

Now this is a terrible insight. It has some other ramifications. I just put into one of them, because
I can't spend all the time on this. Again and again, an individual has the opportunity to get an
estimate of himself from the things that he experiences that try to destroy him. Sometimes I've
said to myself, as I have wrestled with some of the violences of human beings-- as these
violences have been focused on me, for instance-- I've said, well, now, there are many things I

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could do about this. But one thing that I am going to do-- I'm going to see what there is in this
that can clue me in to the meaning of my own life.

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I remember the story of Goliath and David. Do you remember that story? The Philistines on one
side, David's people on the other. And they selected one-- the leader of each-- to stand out here
and fight. It's a wonderful way to have war. Just select the one able representative, and let them
fight it out while all the people be the cheering galleries. It'd be a very interesting way to handle
the wars which we seem to be anxious to have.

So here they were. David, in a little undershirt with a slingshot and a stone in it. Goliath, with his
sharp sword and his long sword, with his head gear, his breastplate, his kneecaps, towering over
David. And then Goliath looked at David, and he thought, this is-- and saw how David was
equipped-- no shoes, just a little shirt, slingshot, and Goliath realized that this is all David
thought of him. He had a stroke.
[LAUGHTER]

And the only thing David needed to do was to cut his head off at leisure. This is the estimate that
life places upon me, that it does not ever place upon my shoulders any burdens greater than I can
bear. Life thinks I'm weak. I'm of no account. It does not ask of me anything. All that I might
have something to weight me down, that I might measure the height and depths of my being by
it. Now this is what suffering does if you can be worthy of it-- worthy of your pain.

Now, there is another aspect of suffering that is crucial. We have been thinking about it almost
always-- certainly these two mornings-- in terms of situations and circumstances that are external
to us, even though we may be involved in them. But there is this suffering that belongs to the
nature of personality.
Now, let's see. It is a suffering that man can only experience because he is capable of loving.
Now this is another kind of suffering. It is one of the dimensions of personality-- to be able to
identify with another person's experience. Now, weigh the words carefully.

To identify with another person's experience, without, at the same time, being able to enter into
the thing that provoked the experience. Now, you have to think carefully with me right here. It is
possible for one human being to put himself into another human being and identify with that
human beings experience or experiences, without at the same time being able to enter into the
thing that caused the experience in the other person with whom he's identifying.

Now you'll have to take that and chew on it. When you love somebody, you identify with that
person's suffering, let us say. You enter into it, even as you remain yourself. But what you cannot
enter into is the thing that brought that experience of suffering onto this individual. Here you
cannot go.
And because you cannot enter into the thing that provoked the experience of suffering, there is,
on your part, a certain sense of impotency-- of helplessness-- and the measure of your
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measure of the pain that is always inherent in love. For will I love. The logic of the experience is
the projection of my personality into the other person's personality, utterly and completely. And I
can't do it.

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And the degree to which I can't do it marks the measure of my pain. Haven't you said-- haven't
you heard a mother say, or a husband, or a wife, or a friend say-- if I could take this off of your
shoulders and put it completely on my shoulders. If I could limit the pain which you are bearing
so that you do not have it, and let me take it on-- if I could do this, then I would be happy, even if
it cost me my life. But you can't do it.
All the time, however, the tutoring of the pain guides you in finding new and fresh ways to
approximate it. You become sensitive to little things that you might do to ease the pain here, or
to lift a little here. You get fresh insights into the other person's life and meaning, so that you can
pick up on wavelengths that flow from them, of which you were not aware until you entered into
the pain. But what you want to do, with all of your passionate endeavor, is to identify totally, and
you can't do it.
And this tension between the measure of the meaning of the act that I would perform that would
redeem those I love from their pain and their suffering and what I'm actually and literally able to
do about it-- this marks the height and depth of my own pain. And it is for this reason, then, that
in all of the religions-- all of the religions-- there is an effort on the part of the religious insight to
bridge this gap.
So in Hinduism, somewhere along the way, one of the gods actually becomes a man so that he
can enter into the experience, and enter into that which provokes the experience. In Christianity,
God becomes a man. All of the doctrines of the incarnations, wherever they turn up, in the midst
of man striving to find a way by which he can love another human being who is not himself
utterly and completely-- all of the doctrines of the incarnations, wherever we find them,
undertake to give a rationale for this experience that we cannot have.
And every time you find such a doctrine, there is brooding over it. A notion that the God who
becomes incarnate has to know how to suffer. Because with His suffering, He builds the bridge
over which the human race can move in its effort to enter completely and utterly into another
human being while he remains himself. And whether this is really accomplished in any other
face of the world depends somewhat upon the degree to which the simplest devotee of the faith
feels that he is able to accomplish it.

Without suffering, there can be no freedom. Without suffering, there can be no ultimate dignity
for the human spirit. Walk beside us, oh God. And leave us not alone, even in our experiences of
most complete isolation and desolation, that we may not be afraid of life, either by day or by
night. Our Father.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
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We are buffeted about by so rich a variety of circumstances that it is often very difficult for us to
find our own ways. We are creatures of pain and hurt, of joy and ecstasy, of despair and hope.
All around us, we see, in many ways, great stretches of unrelieved human misery, a hunger of
body, with all the wasting away of the flesh that comes in its wake, upheaval of minds, with all
of the inward torture for which the skill of man finds no way to deal.

We are surrounded by so much that casts doubt, and often so little that uplifts and inspires. And
when we think about our own selves, each within the tight circle of his little life, the same picture
presents itself. We have found no satisfying answer for the pain of our lives.
And at such a time as this, our Father, as we sit together in the fellowship of the congregation,
enveloped by the great quietness, and stilled by Thy presence, we want to offer to Thee the part
of us that is clear, unsullied, fresh, clean, untainted, unmiseried, and to hold back, under the
shadow of our own feelings, the things that are tainted, and painful, and tragic.

Teach us, our Father, how we may be so worthy of our living experience, that we may, even
know in the quietness of the sanctuary, offer to Thee our pain, our suffering, our miseries, all the
stains of our lives, even as we offer to be our best. And what a relief it is, oh, God, to have
somewhere to pour it all out, our Father. Our Father, accept us totally.
[REVERENT MUSIC]

W.W. Story has written a poem, the background-- that will provide the background for our
thinking about suffering and freedom, or freedom and suffering, or just suffering.

"I sing the hymn of the conquered, who fell in the battle of life; the hymn of the wounded, the
beaten, who died overwhelmed in the strife; not the jubilant song of the victors, for whom the
resounding acclaim of nations was lifted in chorus, whose brows wear the chaplet of fame; but
the hymn of the low, and the humble, the weary, the broken in heart, who strove and who failed,
acting bravely, a silent and desperate part; whose youth bore no flowers in its branches, whose
hopes burned in ashes away, from whose hands slipped the prize they had grasped at, who stood
at the dying of day with the wreck of their life all around them, unpitied, unheeded, alone, with
Death swooping down o'er their failure, and all but their faith overthrown, while the voice of the
world shouts its chorus, its paean for those who have won; while the trumpet is sounding
triumphant; and high to the breeze and the sun, glad banners are waving, hands clapping, and
hurrying feet thronging after the laurel-crowned victors.

I stand on the field of defeat in the shadow with those who have fallen, and wounded, and dying,
and there chant a requiem low, place my hand on their pain-knitted brows, breathe a prayer, hold
the hand that is helpless, and whisper, 'They only the victory win, who have fought the good
fight, and have vanquished the demon that tempts us within; who have held to their faith
unseduced by the prize that the world holds on high; who have dared for a high cause to suffer,
resist, fight-- if need be, to die.'

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Speak, History! Who are Life's victors? Unroll thy long annals and say. Are they those whom the
world call the victors-- who won the success of the day? The martyrs, or Nero? The Spartans
who fell at Thermopylae's tryst, or the Persians and Xerxes? His judges or Socrates? Pilate or
Christ?"

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Suffering is the common experience of man. Perhaps suffering is the common experience of all
living things. Every religion, if it addresses itself in any sense to the condition of man, has to
address itself to suffering and its meaning, if meaning is to be found in it.

It is the peculiar circumstance, historically considered, of a religion like Christianity, that it was
born in pain and suffering. It is, in a sense, a religion that springs out of man's effort to squeeze
optimism out of the pessimism of life. This is very good because it means that, inherent in the
religion, there is a kind of insistent realism, so that anytime the religion takes off to the hills,
leaving man with his miseries and pains, there is something that rises up within the religion that
indicts that kind of behavior.
And the mother of Christianity also comes out of the same kind of matrix of misery. I refer to
Judaism. Now, let's work at this a little. Suffering is the experience of pain through which an
individual passes. This pain may be physical pain or its equivalent. But it is the kind of
experience with which the mind and the spirit of man may somehow deal.

And there are circumstances under which it is entirely possible for the mind and the spirit of
man, so to encompass the height and depths of the agony itself, that the power of the agony is
relaxed. Now, this is the overall working concept that's back of the place, I think, that suffering,
and all the things that surround it, hold in the tradition, the formal tradition, of the organized
faiths of mankind.

No. There is a kind of suffering that belongs to the general category of reward and punishment.
This we understand. When I was 11 years old, I-- about the middle of June, or the end of July, or
end of June, I had an accident. I fell.
And I broke two little bones, or big bones, anyway, bones in my wrist. And I had to carry my
arm in a sling. And it was all braced up with things.

And it came at the peak of my season. It was summer. The river was full of fish. The wild grapes
were ripe. Everything was happening at once. And here I was immunized against the joy that
surrounded me.
And I had to find comfort in some way. I tried to remember what I had done that rated this kind
of activity on the part of the universe. I went over all of my life up to that time, and not a great
distance, just 10 years of it. And I couldn't think of a thing that I had done that merited this kind
of activity.
And I, as was my custom, I carried my question and my burden to my grandmother. And she
didn't answer the metaphysical and the theological problem. She simply said, you broke your
arm because you fell on it.

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But always, you see, we are trying to-- we are involved in a notion of balance, of equilibrium.
And it is expressed in more formal terms as the doctrine of antecedent and consequence, of
reaping and sowing, of reward and punishment. And if we can deal with our suffering in a
manner that makes it fit into that kind of category, then it becomes possible for us, somehow, to
absorb its violence.

I have a friend who was telling me the other day about how she was reared in this doctrine. And
in her household, all behavior of the children was equated in certain definite ways. If you did
this, then you got this.

And you did the other-- and one of the things that she was forbidden to do was to go to the circus
in the afternoon, after school. And if she did, she was told the nature of the punishment. It would
be a rather violent affair.

So walking home from school, she weighed it. Now, is it worth what it will cost me? I want to
ride the merry-go-round. I have the nickel. But if I ride the merry-go-round, then the price I pay
for it is so and so and so. And when she decided that, in the light of that kind of rule of justice, of
balancing, that the joy of riding on the merry-go-round without permission would absorb the
violence of the whipping that she would get, she decided to go to the circus.
Now, life would be very simple if this is-- if all suffering could be worked out that way-- reward,
punish. But there's another dimension at work here. Some suffering does not seem to be involved
in any kind of scheme of reward and punishment, certainly, as far as the individual's life and
responsibility are concerned.

There seems to be-- and mark my words. I say, there seems to be at work in human experience,
what may be called, the operation of a random element, the operation of something that functions
without particular responsibility to any individual mind, however good, and perfect, and whole
that mind might be.
That there is a margin of activity in the experience of man on the planet that exposes man to the
operation of forces that are not responsive to that man's condition, nor responsible to his will and
his judgment. These have been roughly categorized in man's thinking, sometimes, as fate, fate. In
this sense man seems to be a victim, a victim.
I recognize at once that when I use the word that man seems to be a victim that there is
something that is very, very negative about it, something that seems to discount the morality of
the universe. That man is a thing buffeted about by winds that blow without grounding their
behavior in any kind of moral responsibility. This is-- we are all caught there.

Why was I born as I am born or was born? Why did this happen to me? I was talking with
someone the other day about a great man, a man who had spent an entire lifetime in doing, for
generations of men, including my own generation, things that were of such significance that the
depth to his mind and his genius can never be repaid by any act that we may perform.

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And that man, during the last year and a half of his, life seemed to have been the victim of
impersonal and ruthless disintegration of body. He had cancer of the stomach, cancer of the
brain. And in the middle of these two combined and organized attacks, he had a stroke. Victim.

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Now, I do not pretend to say to you, this morning, that there is, even within the context of the
living faith which we know, any completely satisfying answer to the kind of moral problem that
this situation creates for the human spirit. Sometimes, this is dealt with by the mind and the
spirit. Remember the working definition with which we started about 20 minutes ago.
Sometimes, this is dealt with by the mind or by the spirit in ways of complete and utter
resignation. This is to confirm, such an attitude, is to confirm the status of man as victim. The
classical illustration of it is in Prometheus. You remember in Prometheus Bound?

After he has been chained to the rocks on the side of the Caucasus Mountains, and the eagles of
Jove, were destined, or forced, or compelled, or decided to eat his liver and his eyeballs every
day. Then every night, he grew a new liver and a new set of eyeballs, that they may be eaten all
over again, the next day.

And what does Prometheus say, expressing, in classic terms, this reaction of the mind of the
victim experience of man, in terms of resignation? He says, I must bear what is ordained for me
with patience, realizing that necessity doth front, front my universe with an invincible gesture.
That's the classical Greek answer.

Now, I don't know who or what-- I have some ideas. But I won't go into that at the moment. I do
not know who or what is responsible for what we call man's fate. But I do know this-- that there
is a fundamental distinction between a man's fate and his destiny.
Now, this is where I think the creative working of what seems to me to be the genius of man's
freedom is operative. Man may, given a fate-- described as I have been describing it, and as you
know better than I, perhaps-- given a fate, a man may use this as raw material out of which he
makes new, and fresh, and creative discoveries about the meaning and the worth of life.

Now, he doesn't have to do it. He doesn't have to. And this is where the freedom comes. He may
do this. He may whimper and cry out against the way in which he is victimized. He may do this.

He may take the raw materials of this and, in a manner that the mechanism of which I cannot
describe, transform this stuff into something that reveals a meaning, and a worth, and a dignity to
his life that was not present in his awareness before he undertook this creative and daring
adventure. Now, all around us, we see people who are doing this.
There is another sense. I hardly know how to introduce this. But there is another sense in which
man is victim. And that is the innocence of man-- the people who suffer innocently, by any
standard or judgment of which we are aware. I ran into a fresh idea about this, one that had never
crossed my mind before, or I had not encountered it anywhere.

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And I want to read just the paragraph which is taken from a novel called The Feast. And this is a
paragraph. Before you tear it up in your mind, hear it, and feel it, and then tear it up tomorrow.

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"I shouldn't wonder if the entire human race-- I shouldn't wonder if the entire human race isn't
tolerated for its innocent minority. I dare say that mankind is protected and sustained by
undeserved suffering, by all those millions of helpless people who pay for the evil we do, and
who shield us simply by being there, as Lot was in the doomed city.

If any community of people were to be purely evil, were to have no element of innocence among
them at all, the Earth would probably open and swallow them up. Such a community would split
the moral atom. It's the innocent who integrate the whole concern. Their agony is dreadful. But
their shoulders hold the sky suspended.
They stand, and the Earth's foundations stay. Where you have the suffering innocent, the
crucified victim, there you have the Redeemer who secures us all a continual reprieve."

Now, this is almost as far as I can go with this, this morning. But I'll have to pick it up next
week, I see. One of the reasons why we are never quite able to settle for man's interpretation of
his experience of suffering, of pain, in terms either of some kind of balance, some kind of
artificial equalization of unequals-- [SNEEZES] excuse me-- or in terms of reward and
punishment, or in terms of man's experience as a victim of fate, the victim of impersonal forces.

One of the reasons why we are unable to accept this as a final answer to man's encounter with
suffering is the fact that there seems to be in the constitution of man, a feeling, a notion, an
awareness that the world which he knows, the world of his experience, cannot contain all that his
life means. Now, this is a very crude thing. But it's inherent in our disposition towards existence.

Now, this spills out in little ways. For instance, you are never satisfied with anything that you do.
Are you? If I were to say to you, select one expression of your life as the expression that is most
completely expressive of you, if I may put it that way, which one would you select? As soon as
you selected one, before the sounds died, you would say, oh, no, but that doesn't quite get into it,
all the things that I've felt, or seen, or sensed.
Another very crude expression of the same thing is that when you were 10 years old, you were
sure that the thing that you were really on the scent of, you wouldn't land it until you were in
your teens. And then when you got into your teens, you were sure that you wouldn't land it until
you were in your-- whatever-- in your-- the next bracket of years. And then when you got into
those-- and this is the way.
Now, there is something about the human spirit, a kind of constitutional bias, that insists that
experience of whatever kind cannot quite contain all that I mean by me. So the judgment that I
pass upon the meaning of my life and, therefore, the meaning of existence can never quite be
clued by any event that I may be going through.

And if I be a religious man, then I say that God cannot ever be exhausted in any aspect of human
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itself, there is more to be said, more to be felt, more to be known, then all of my past can
possibly conjure up. And ultimately, this is the answer, both to the goodness of life and the
suffering of life.

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"Who are Life's victors? Unroll thy long annals and say. The martyrs or Nero? His judges or
Socrates? Pilate or Christ?" Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Be in us and about us, oh, God. Leave us not alone in whatever may be our private desolation.
Tutor us in the wisdom that whatever may be the lot, Thou hast not exhausted Thy meaning in
us, nor Thyself in our spirits. Grant unto us Thy peace, oh, God.
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The ways by which we have come to this place, this day. For some, the journey has been through
many paths and bypaths leading sometimes one place and other times to another place. But
always the hunger persists that there is a meaning in life that is greater than the meaning which
we are experiencing, a depth of feeling profounder than anything that we know, a way of
thinking that transcends the furthest realms of our own thoughts.
It is good, therefore, to sit together feeling our minds and spirits gentled by a wider circle of
meaning and thought than anything that we have known before and to know each after the
pattern of his own need that Thou art our Father nearer than breathing, closer than hands and
feet. And the thought is too much for us. The assurance is more than we cannot abide.

Reach to us our Father in our weakness, in our sin, in our failure, and in our pride that we may
know that we are Thy children. And that Thou art our Father, our Father.
[MUSIC PLAYING]

As a background for our thinking together, I'm reading two paragraphs from The Creative Quest
by Atkins and one of the [INAUDIBLE] sonnets. "Grace is more vital than our theologies about
grace. It cannot be contained in any doctrine. It is a reality in life made manifest in uncounted
ways, from the faint green burgeoning of leaves after winter's leaflessness and the resurgence of
ruined cities from their dust to the blessedness of those who know their sins forgiven and their
future bright with tender hope.
Nay, it supplies a hope which lights a road beyond the hills of time and links the pilgrimages of
life with their losses, shadows, and fugitive happinesses to immoral issues." Jung has said in a
single sentence how all this bears upon any present time and arresting upon our own time.

He says, and this is the sentence, "the modern man is completely modern only when he has come
to the very edge of the world, leaving behind him all that has been discarded and outgrown and
acknowledging that he stands before a void out of which all things must grow."

And now, there are no assuring signs that we are ready to lead behind us all that has been
discarded and outgrown. But we do seem on the edge of the world and to be looking over into a
void. This void is religion's opportunity. Nothing else is in sight to save us, nor will any religion
save us which has not itself the sense of having come to the edge of the world and of looking into
a void out of which all things may grow.
"It may be," says Atkins, "that Christianity itself needs to learn that it cannot save its own life
without losing it." And then this. "Small flowers there are beside the stoniest way. And on the
seeming endless journeying, some breaths of air are sweet. And some birds sing. And some new
goal is reached in every day.

Yet for the unknown end, we wait and pray. When the last knot of this world's tangled string is
straightened out and every evil thing redeemed and heaven's undisputed sway. We know not how

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the day is to be born, whether in clouds of glory, tongues of flame, as once that Pentecost the
spirit came or whether imperceptibly as dawn. But as the seed must grow into the tree, so life is
love and love the end must be."

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At one end of our man's experience of freedom is death which instructs and informs the character
and the nature of failure as well as freedom. At the other end of man's experience of freedom is
grace.
For even though man has the freedom to feel, there is a very subtle, and sometimes dramatic,
manifestation in the human spirit, which says over and over again that man feels. But he does not
feel absolutely. And it is with reference to this margin that grace has to do.

The things that are true in religion are in religion because they are true. They are not true because
they are in the religion. This is very important. It is the genius of religion to be able to dramatize
and, in a religion like Christianity, to personalize that which is valid and true without regard to
the context by which the particular statement it may be surrounded.
Now, if there is any meaning then in the great doctrine of grace with which we will not have
many words to say. But if there is any validity in it, this validity is a universal validity, universal
validity. We are all involved in the manifestation of the overflow in life.
Now, if I may if I may illustrate it rather crudely, back in 1938 I was going to Los Angeles from
Washington District of Columbia. I decided that I would go the southern root down through
Memphis, New Orleans, Houston, San Antonio, Yuma, and on.

I had been advised by the person in the world closest to me that it would be a very good thing if I
improved my knowledge of American history by stopping at San Antonio to see the Alamo. At
the time, I had no particular interest in the Alamo. I had a sense of history. And that was, for me,
sufficient.
But nevertheless, when we arrived that train arrived at San Antonio, we were there for a half
hour at noon. I got off the train, took a look around. And as a matter of fact, it was time to get in
a cab and go up to the Alamo and just look at the outside and come back so that the assignment
was carried out. And then I got back on the train.
And as the train started moving out of the station, suddenly without any preparation, I reached
for my bag and for my topcoat and jumped off the train while it was moving. At midnight, the
next train came along. And I got this train. And when the train arrived on the outskirts of Yuma,
Arizona, we stopped.
And there to the left, we saw great steel cars twisted as if a giant had been at work, two huge
locomotives as two prehistoric monsters were up like this, sides in the coaches where an
acetylene torch had been used to cut an opening to pull the dead bodies out. And that was the
train off of which I had jumped.

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On the other hand-- and I will not pursue this. I leave it for you. There were some people who
decided at the last minute to take the train. Now, grace is man's experience of that which is
beyond the balance, beyond the accounting, beyond the merit and the demerit.

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It is the extra something that seems always to be relating to man's life out of an initiative that is
its own and that is not relating to man's life because of something which, in the nature of the
case, the individual life demands.

It is like an aroma that surrounds the life of man, impinging upon it, dealing with it, structuring
it, cradling it, sustaining it, redeeming it, reassuring it, giving comfort to it. But its movement is
not contingent upon what is going on in the individual mind and heart.

Now, one of the ways, it seems to me, by which we experience this most effectively is in our
struggle, our individual and private struggle, with good and evil. The thing that always impresses
me about my own struggle with good and evil and the observation that I make with reference to
other individuals' struggle with good and evil is that the thing that defines the meaning of man's
struggle with good and evil is what may be called a backdrop, a background of innocence, in
which neither good nor evil participates.

It is this memory-- what shall I call it? This racial memory of innocence that provides the
background against which the sharp lines of the meaning of good as contrasted with evil takes on
a significance. And outside of all that we mean by good and evil but that gives a background and
a context to it is this sense of innocence, this thing that is wrapped up in the myth about the
innocence of man that which predated man's experience with conflict, man's experience with
good and evil.
And on the other end-- on the other end of man's struggle with good and evil, there is something
else that is of the same quality as is the racial memory of innocence. And that is a notion of good
that is beyond good and evil. That this is, in my thought, a manifestation of the way the life of
man is girded and supported and sustained.
But within the area between these two things, the racial sense of innocence, which is the vast
backdrop of all man's experience with good and evil and the great is staggering boundless reach
of the mind and the spirit of man in terms of a good that is beyond good and evil, in that arena,
man's struggle takes place. And always in the struggle, there are moments when light from that
transcendent future or light from that transcendent past breaks in upon man's struggle with his
darkness.

So when the world is going to pieces and everywhere there seems to be nothing but violence
with the smell of death riding on the every breeze, nestled right in the heart of this kind of
collapse of the worldly hopes men set their hearts upon stirs a dream about peace, about a kind of
existence for man in which all of the madness of war and violence will have passed away.
Now, this he thinks of, he feels, he dreams about while he is dying on the battlefield. While he is
exposed to the utmost of violence and destruction, breaking into it like a shaft of transcended
glory is something else.

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Now, this is not all for we experience it in other ways, in the human transaction that we have
with each other all the time in our experience with love. And we see that, as we love, it is
something that has some element of measurement in it, some aspect of merit and demerit, some
limiting qualitative something. But all the time, what we are trying to do, what we hope that
some time at last we shall be able to do is to experience unmotivated love that is sheer.

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And that is why, when as individuals we reflect upon the wonder and the miracle which is ours
when we are aware that we are loved by someone, what is it that comes back to us over and over
again as the quality of our experience becomes invaded by this new dimension of integrity?
What do we say? We say to ourselves, I cannot possibly be worthy of this. So that the only way
by which it can mean something to me that finally penetrates is that it is the outpouring of
something that is without merit, something that is unmotivated, even as religion insists is the way
God loves us.
So the Master says, he has not dealt with us after our sins nor rewarded us according to our
inequities. God caused the sun to shine on the good man and the bad man, the just and the unjust.
And in the drama of the incarnation in Christianity, this is what is being said about the grace of
God. That there is no state of man, no condition of man that is beyond the reach of the
redemptive manifestation of the love of God.
Now, whether or not we from the vantage point of our orientation to life, whether or not we from
the vantage point of our thoughts about the nature of religion and the nature of existence or the
nature of God or the nature of ourselves are willing to accept as a part of our context any
doctrine that has to do with the way in which, according to the Christian religion, God spoke in
human history through a man. Whether or not we are in a position to deal with this intellectually,
or even emotionally, the simple fact remains.
That in the language of the living texture of our days, we are always finally seeing that there is at
last no validity in a notion that causes one man to give up another man. To say that you are so
bad that for you there is no margin.
Now, this expresses itself in another way. And the way by which we hold to our own sense of
infinite worth. This is another very close and psychological manifestation in my judgment of the
working of grace through what, for me, is the goodness of God.
I know, for instance, that I am not as good as someone may think I am nor as bad as someone
may think I am. I have an inside track that enables me to behold all the movements of my own
life and to work assiduously at the details of unraveling the threads of my motivations.

There is no word, no judgment that can come from the lips of another that has not been predated
in my own mind and thoughts and observations concerning myself. But nevertheless, I don't give
myself up. I cling to myself with an enthusiasm that is abiding.
And even though I know that the good that I see I have not been able to achieve, even though I
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kind of private dial, nevertheless, I say that there is a worth in me that is intrinsic, that is
independent of all character of any kind.

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This is the most intimate way by which the margin of that which is more spills over into the
private life. And so in our scripture lesson, the Greek woman comes to Jesus. She's in trouble as
far as the child is concerned. And she wants Him to do something.
And out of the tight circle of his own frustration growing out of the mounting resistance to his
movement and to the Kingdom of God as he sensed it, he said to her, "it is not right. It is not
meritorious. It is not a part of the balance that I should take the children's food and give it to
dogs."

This throws the whole thing out of scale. There is a prevailing prejudice on the part of life that
manifests itself in terms of grace, but terms of grace that are peculiar to a peculiar people. And
what did this Greek woman say standing outside of all that he meant? "Aw," she said, "Master,
do you not know what kind of world this is? The world is so made that you can't feed the
children without feeding the dogs." "Go," He said. "And it shall be unto you."
And thank you very much for reminding me. Thank you very much. We're overwhelmed, our
Father, by the massive pressure of Thy Spirit upon our minds and our hearts.
Be with us in weakness and in strength, in failure and success, in sin and in virtue lest we fail
absolutely, our Father.
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And there is a weariness of the body which is our common lot because of the fevered character
of the daily round. And it is good to sit together in the sanctuary and give rest to the body. There
is a weariness of mind due to the wide variety of tensions which engage it, tensions which
express themselves in ambivalences and contradictions and paradoxes. It is good to have a
moment when all of these are suspended and the mind waits for a new dimension of a lightness
and synthesis. There is a weariness of the world.

The kind of exhaustion that comes from the contemplation of needs that are so vast that the mind
cannot encompass, from the awareness of distresses, the heights and depths of which stagger the
imagination, the overriding quality of despair that seems to provide the subtle overtone to all the
tidings that sweep in to us from the ends of the earth. It is good, so very good, to pause and
spread out before the altar, the vast reaches of the weariness of the world.
There is a weariness of the spirit made up in part of hunger, in part of guilt and sin and error, in
part of anxiety, in part of love and hate. And how good it is to bring into our churning spirits the
moment of quiet.
When perchance our Father, it will pleasure Thy Spirit to breathe into us Thy great tranquility,
that we may know each after the pattern of his own need and hunger and desperation what it is
that is needful for his peace. And for this, privilege this fleeting, subtle, creative moment of Thy
grace, we give Thee thanks. We give Thee thanks. We give the thanks, oh God, oh God, our
Father.
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As the background for a continuation of our thought about freedom and failure, a thought which
was touched upon in our last time together when we were focusing our minds upon the setting of
the timeless insights and tradition which is ours, we you listen to these two points, one with
which you are familiar, no doubt, written many years ago by a man who is serving a lifetime
sentence in the Charlestown prison in the state and the other from a contemporary.
Life, you have beaten me. Still with stinging wounds, I kiss your hands. Though you have
tortured me until my joy was crushed, my hopes, my will for things I do not understand. Though
I have trembled at your power and wept in terror hour by hour for all our struggling, hate, and
strife, I love you life.
Though what I build, you will destroy, though you have snatched joy after joy from my weak
hands, and though you break my heart, and all my dreams dispel and silence ever read drum and
fife that makes my march less terrible, I love you life. And life, for all your cruel powers, for all
your proud brutality, how wonderful the few brief hours when you are kind to me.

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And the other-- though I am beaten, nobody shall know. I'll wear defeat so proudly, I shall go
about my business as I did before. Only when I have safely closed the door against you and the
rest shall I be free to bow my head when there is none to see. Tonight, I'll shed my tears.
Tomorrow when I talk with you, I will be gay again. Though I am beaten, nobody shall guess,
for I will walk as though I knew success.

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Let us not be depressed. It was suggested that one of the tremendously searching and necessitous
words that is symbolic of a timeless insight that moves through the ground of our tradition is the
word freedom. And this is no accident.
Freedom has a twin, and that twin is failure. In June 1941, or '42, June 1 and 2 1941, '42, there
was held in Cincinnati a conference, the topic of which, why men fail. It was sponsored by the
Doctors of the Mind and the Emotions. They had published under the editorship, the former
editor of the American Medical Association a volume that gives the papers that were read by the
doctors at that time, which if a person's interested in pursuing certain aspects of the whole
meaning of human failure, I suggest this book, "Why Men Fail," edited by Dr. Fishbein.
There is another book on the meaning of human existence by a man whose name is Leslie Paul.
It has also a very searching chapter on another aspect of the meaning of failure for persons who
want to pursue this further in terms of the meaning of human freedom as they experience it
against the background of freedom and its meaning. You will find further reading in this way
very rewarding.
Now, I began with the basic insight that the gift of life is at once the gift of failure. The gift of
life is at once the gift of failure for the gift of life is at once the gift of freedom. Man is a very
fallible creature. We cannot think of man as being infallible, can we?

One of the reasons why I think that life is good rather than evil is the fact that I can always be
mistaken. The margin of error, the possibility of error does not ever desert the human
predicament. And it is altogether possible that a man may live his entire life confident that at
every step of the way, he has been right, only to discover just before he dies that a great segment
of his life has been a mistake. But because this is true, we don't stop living.

Now, things that do not have life don't make mistakes. And sometimes that's why I envy things
because it's a wonderful thing to know that your pencil just as a pencil can't ever make a mistake.
Your fountain pen can't ever make a mistake. Your shoes can't ever make a mistake. These
inanimate things somehow are blessed without having any meaning. They cannot be significant
because they can't fail.
Now, let this sink into our minds. When failure is an expression or the experience of the internal
organism, we say that the person is ill. So illness is a form of failure as far as the internal
organisms is concerned.
So that the doctor through chemistry and through a certain kind of mechanical apparatuses and
functioning and one or two other things seeks to restore the wholeness of function to the

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organism. And you say he is well if this internal failure has somehow been corrected. But
because it is a living thing, it can experience this kind of failure.

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Now, there is another dimension of failure when the organism is functioning in activity-- failure
in judgment, failure to exercise the increment of will at a moment when this increment of will
was called for and we could not deliver, failure to act because one was filled with what may be
called the absence of courage at the crucial moment. These represent failure of the organism in
inactivity.
And always at this level, failure means that the individual has had an opportunity to act in one
way or the other. Therefore implicit in man's experience of failure is his experience of freedom
for freedom means to be able to act one way or the other, but to be under no compulsion to act
exclusively in a particular way. For this, there would not be freedom.

I have told you several times from this pulpit, and I say it again because it's worth it, that the
most dramatic illustration that I've had in my own life of what failure and freedom mean in terms
of this choice of action. And where there is no choice of action, there is no freedom, and
therefore no failure.
It is the story of the traveling evangelist who came to our community and who preached a
sermon about hell. And he was taken on a journey to hell as a visitor. And he was shown around.
And in my community at that time, the two great sins, of course, were dancing and card playing.
And the persons who went to hell went to hell for doing these two things.
Now, he was a man of very great insight, for he said that the thing that you had to do forever in
hell was the thing the doing of which brought you to hell in the first place. So that he went first
to this great dance hall, and everybody was dancing. That is, couples were dancing, and they had
to dance forever and ever without ever stopping and with the same partner. Just forever and ever
and ever.
And then, another place, they were playing cards, playing five up, which was the game of my
boyhood. They were seated four at a table. And they had to sit there and play cards throughout
eternity without ever stopping.

Now, they couldn't fail, you see, because they could act only in one way. Freedom then was not
something which they could experience. And the absence of freedom was not only slavery. But
the absence of freedom in the mind of this inspired man was ill for it meant that the living texture
of the organism had died. It could not act within the feeling context of a living option.
Now, there is not only failure when the organism breaks down internally in one way or another
or when there is a breakdown in judgment. But there is another kind of failure which, for lack of
a better term, is a failure that has more of a spiritual quality in it without seeming to prejudice it
at all. It is the failure to do the good thing, the right thing when you are faced with the option. To
look at the good, and formally to reject it. The failure that is made up of remorse.

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Now, if I have a failure in judgment so that I act with as much knowledge and awareness as I
know, but I didn't have enough knowledge and enough awareness now, I may be sorry that I
didn't do the thing that I should have done. But I am not loaded with remorse and guilt. This is
different.

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But if I am faced and confronted with a thing which seems to me to be the right and the decent
thing to do, and I exercise an option which sends me in a direction that denies the validity and
the integrity of the thing, then my reaction to that kind of failure is remorse, guilt. If I mistreat
you in order that I might pour out upon you the distilled violences of my own spirits and make of
you a victim of my distorted or diseased emotion, then as I contemplate the withering results of
this kind of behavior, I feel unclean.
It's like the difference between a man who has been killed by what bill of ladings call an act of
God-- a man killed in an earthquake or a man killed by lightning. When you look at such a man,
you feel the sense of the tragic dimension of life, the dimension of powerlessness, of exposure of
man to what seems to be the operation of certain impersonal and random elements in existence.
But when you look at a man who has been killed by another man, you feel nasty, contaminated,
unclean.
Now, here is the miracle. I wish I knew enough to explain it. But here is the miracle, that there is
a dimension of the human spirit that is able to detach itself from the sense of failure that grows
out of this third activity and so to operate upon it, that the individual seems to be able to work
out some kind of redemption, some kind of reconciliation. So that always wherever men have
experiences of guilt and shame surrounding the experience, moving somewhere within the area
of the experience, or sometimes found at the very heart beat of the experience itself is something
that is positive and creative that suggests sometimes techniques, methods, ways, moods,
attitudes, spirit that will somehow absolve the violence of the guilt. And the individual has the
experience that is called the experience of forgiveness.

Now, the monitor-- oh, that isn't the word. The boundary-- no. The context yes, that's better. The
context in which man's experience of failure takes place-- failure and freedom, you see, are these
twins. You'll understand how I'm thinking about the.

The context in which it takes place is a context that has one basic assumption. And that is that the
ultimate failure for the organism is death, is death, is death. And even in the story of Methuselah,
finally even he and death got together. That ultimately, the organism fails in death.
But here again is another thing that I don't quite understand. But it is it is inherent in all of the
great religious insights and fundamental to the insight of our own tradition, that the human spirit
in the exercise of responsible and significant living, which is living that is fallible, must learn
how to take into account the fact of death so that somewhere within the context of every man's
living, his spirit confronts death.
Not his body, his body-- this is automatic. Not merely his mind, but the dimension of his
personality, that for lack of a better term, I will call the time binding aspect of his personality.
This confronts death. This faces death. This takes death into account. This deals with death.

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And out of this confrontation of the human spirit with that which holds in its hands the guarantor
of man's fallibility arises all of the great moments when the mind and the spirit in synthesis seem
to be able to announce to death that it is a little thing.

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And the dogmas express it in a wide series of doctrines. But what they are saying is that
something can happen to the spirit that enables the spirit of man to confront that which
guarantees all the fallibility of man, death, so that so that there emerges then over and over again
at the level of the most humble human being and sometimes at the staggering heights of the most
learned and sophisticated a very simple insight that is distilled out of the stuff of deep living, that
there are some things in life that are worse than death.
And once this is the assurance, the perspective on life falls into place. Now, there's one more
little step if I can just take it. It is this quality of the spirit of man that ultimately takes even the
fact of death into account, that ultimately deals with failure. For a distinction of insight and of
spiritual quality is always made then by such persons between being mistaken-- now, please hear
this-- between being mistaken on the one hand and failure on the other. That one of the
delusions, you see, is to identify failure and being mistaken.
And the two things may not be synonymous. A man may feel again and again and again and
again. And each failure underscores his sense of fallibility and weakness and impotency. Yet, he
may not be mistaken in the thing he's trying to do. For always against the failure under such
circumstance, something wars, something does battle. And it is this quality in the spirit of land
with which he confronts death, even, that enables man to keep the distinction clear. And
assuming that it is a valid and a real one, between being mistaken in the thing to which I'm
committed and failing to accomplish it.
I may fail over and over and over again, and get up and start over again over and over. Heir of
the kingdom neath the skies, often he falls, yet falls to rise, stumbling, bleeding, beaten back,
holding still to the upward track, playing his part in creation's plan. God-like in image, this is
man. This is man. This is man.

And it would not be true if he couldn't fail. For to be free, man must be free really. And to be free
really means that he must be conditioned, as it were, to error. And grow in his spirit is measured
by the degree to which he is able to release the quality that is inherent in him that enables him to
deal in terms of confrontation with the fact of failure understood within the insight of man's
experience with freedom. And I thank God that this is so.
Be very close. Very close to us as we stumble and falter and fail, that we may know that these,
after all, are expressions of Thy love and the depth of Thy carry.
[ORGAN MUSIC]
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